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FoxNews kirjoitti:2 Killed at Colo. Missionary Center; in Separate Church Attack, Gunman and Victim Die
Monday, December 10, 2007

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — A gunman shot four staff members at a missionary training center near Denver early Sunday, killing two, after being told he couldn't spend the night. About 12 hours later and 65 miles away in Colorado Springs, a gunman fatally shot a parishioner at a megachurch and wounded four other people before a guard killed him, police said.

The police chief in Arvada, a suburb about 15 miles west of Denver where the mission workers were shot, said the shootings may be related to those in Colorado Springs but declined to elaborate. No one had been captured in the Arvada shootings, authorities said.

Late Sunday, Arvada police helped Colorado Springs serve a search warrant at a home in suburban Englewood, about 15 miles south of Denver, that they said could be related to the Colorado Springs shooting case.

"Colorado Springs has identified its suspect, and we're there to see whether their suspect and ours are the same," said Arvada Deputy Police Chief Gary Creagor.

Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church Photo Essays
Shooting at Christian Missionary Center Witness descriptions differed in each incident. A handgun was used in the shootings at the Youth With a Mission center in Arvada, while a rifle was used at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, police said.

The gunman at the New Life Church was shot and killed by a church security guard after entering the church's main foyer with high-powered rifle shortly before 1 p.m. and opening fire, Colorado Springs Police Chief Richard Myers said. Four others were wounded, Myers said.

The church's 11 a.m. service had recently ended, and hundreds of people were milling about when the gunman opened fire. Nearby were parents picking up their children from the nursery.

Police arrived to find that the gunman had been killed by a member of the church's armed security staff, Myers said.

"There was a courageous staff member who probably saved many lives here today," Myers said.

Gov. Bill Ritter ordered state authorities to help investigate. The FBI and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were assisting. Officers found several smoke-generating devices on the church campus, Myers said. Their intended purpose wasn't clear.

Three of the injured were taken to Penrose Community Hospital in Colorado Springs, said hospital spokeswoman Amy Sufak. One person was in critical condition and another in fair condition. The third was treated and released, and the fourth was treated at the scene of the shooting, Myers said.

New Life was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, who was fired last year after a former male prostitute alleged he had a three-year cash-for-sex relationship with him. Haggard, then the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, admitted committing undisclosed "sexual immorality."

The New Life church is one of Colorado's largest with about 10,000 members. The mission training program in Arvada does have a small office on the Colorado Springs church campus.

About 7,000 people were on the Colorado Springs campus at the time of the shooting, Senior Pastor Brady Boyd said. Security at the church had been beefed up after the early morning shootings in Arvada, he said.

That shooting happened at about 12:30 a.m. at the Youth With a Mission center in Arvada, a Denver suburb, police spokeswoman Susan Medina said.

A man and a woman were killed and two men were wounded, Medina said. All four were staff members of the center, said Paul Filidis, a Colorado Springs-based spokesman with Youth With a Mission.

Arvada Police Chief Don Wick, asked whether he believed there was reason to think the shootings are related, responded, "Yes, there is reason to believe that."

Wick said the suspect spent several minutes speaking with people inside the dorm. Peter Warren, director of Youth With a Mission Denver, said the man asked whether he could spend the night. Several youths called on Tiffany Johnson, the center's director of hospitality.

"The director of hospitality was called. That's when he opened fire," Warren said. Johnson, 26, was killed.

Warren said he didn't know whether any of the students or staff knew the gunman. "We don't know why" he came to the dormitory, Warren said.

Witnesses told police that the gunman was a 20-year-old white male, wearing a dark jacket and skull cap, who had a handgun and left on foot. He may have glasses or a beard.

Police with dogs searched the area through the night, and residents of nearby homes were notified by reverse 911 to be on the lookout. Medina said residents were asked to look out their windows for any tracks left in the snow during the night. About 4 inches of snow had fallen in the area in the past day.

In addition to Johnson, killed in Arvada was Philip Crouse, 24. Youth With a Mission said Johnson was from Minnesota and Crouse was from Alaska.

The missionary center identified the wounded as Dan Griebenow, 24, of South Dakota, and Charlie Blanch, 22, whose hometown wasn't immediately known. One of the men was in critical condition, and the other was stable, police said.

The missionary center is on the grounds of the Faith Bible Chapel. Cheril Morrison, wife of chapel pastor George Morrison, said Crouse had just hung up Christmas lights at her home and that Johnson was "an amazingly beautiful person."

Mimi Martin, who lives near the center, said she received the warning call at about 9 a.m. warning neighbors to keep their doors and windows locked.

"Why would anybody want to hurt those kids?" Martin said.

Darv Smith, director of a Youth With a Mission center in Boulder, said people ranging from their late teens to their 70s undergo a 12-week course that prepares them to be missionaries. He said the center trains about 300 people a year.

Filidis said staffers are usually former missionaries themselves and that the "mercy ministries" performed by trainees include orphanage work. He said he didn't know where the group being trained in Arvada was going to be sent.

Youth With a Mission was started in 1960 and now has 1,100 locations with 16,000 full-time staff, Smith said. The Arvada center was founded in 1984.

Manual kirjoitti:Nää tuntuu olevan joku trendi nykyään.
Ammuskellaan kouluissa, kirkoissa ja ostoskeskuksissa.
Enää ei kai puutu kun ammuskelu lastentarhassa.

gravedigger kirjoitti:Varmaan joku pappa on suorittanu vanhainkoti iskunkin

Tässä tapauksessa vartija ampui riehujan,ostoskeskus/kouluammuntojen yhteydessä mietin onko näitä ampujia saatu siviilivoimin taltutettua.

Erikoista että kirkolla vastattiin tuleen

VoDKa kirjoitti:Millaisia nuo Coloradon aselait ja muut on?

Q. What are Colorado's Laws Concerning Firearms?

A.
Laws Concerning Firearms

Colorado allows a person to carry a firearm in a vehicle, loaded or unloaded, if its use is for lawful protection of such person or another's person or property. [C.R.S. 18-12-105(2)]

Colorado law also allows a person to possess a handgun in a dwelling, place of business, or automobile. However, you cannot carry the weapon concealed on or about your person while transporting it into your home, business, hotel room, etc.

Local jurisdictions may not enact laws that restrict a person's ability to travel with a weapon. [C.R.S. 18-12-105.6]

http://csp.state.co.us/faq.cfm?Section_ID=14

Iltalehti kirjoitti:Kirkkoammuskelut järkyttivät Yhdysvaltoja
10.12.2007 19:03

Poliisi etsii mahdollista yhteyttä veritekojen välillä.

Yhdysvaltain Coloradossa tapahtuneet ampumavälikohtaukset ovat järkyttäneet jouluun valmistautuvia amerikkalaisia.

Viisi ihmistä sai surmansa ja kuusi haavoittui sunnuntaina kahdessa ammuskelussa. Ne teki erityisen järkyttäviksi se, että toinen niistä tapahtui lähetyssaarnaajien koulutuskeskuksessa ja toinen kirkon pihamaalla.

Edellinen maata ravisuttanut ampumavälikohtaushan tapahtui Nebraskassa Omahassa viime viikolla, kun ampuja surmasi ostoskeskuksessa kahdeksan ihmistä ja itsensä.

Coloradon ammuskeluista toinen tapahtui lähellä Denveriä, missä yksittäisen ampujan luoteihin menehtyi kaksi lähetyskeskuksen työntekijää. Molemmat uhrit olivat nuoria, 24-vuotias mies ja 26-vuotias nainen.

Kaksitoista tuntia myöhemmin, reilun sadan kilometrin päässä Colorado Springsissä, kiväärillä varustautunut mies ampui kirkon pysäköintipaikalla kaksi ihmistä. Naispuolinen vartija ampui surmaajan.

Miehen motiiveista ei ole toistaiseksi mitään tietoa. Colorado Springisin suuressa New Life -kirkossa oli välikohtauksen aikaan yli 7 000 ihmistä.

Yhteys yhä epäselvä

Poliisi etsii yhtä mahdollista yhteyttä veritekojen välillä.

- Olosuhteet huomioon ottaen on hyvin mahdollista, että tapaukset ovat yhteydessä toisiinsa, mutta meidän on todistettava, että asia on näin, Arvadan varapoliisipäällikkö Gary Creagor sanoi ABC-uutisille.

Vielä maanantaina poliisi etsi silminnäkijöitä ja muuta todistusaineistoa, joiden avulla selvitettäisiin ovatko ammuskelut vain murheellinen yhteensattuma vai liittyvätkö ne todella toisiinsa.

Matt Murray, 24, denveriläisen neurologin poika joka asui Englewoodin kodissaan vanhempiensa kanssa, tunnistetiin Coloradon kirkkoammuskelijaksi.

Poliisi vahvisti tämän tiedon 15.00 uutislähetyksessään (eli Jenkkilässä tiistaina kello 15.00, mitä se on Suomen ajassa, en osaa sanoa.)

Tutkijat tutkivat Denveriläisen lähiön kodin Englewoodissa aikaisin maanantaina (ammuskelu sattui sunnuntaina), yrittäen löytää jotain yhteyttä ammuskelujen väliltä.

Naapurit sanoivat että perhe asui (siinä talossa) yli 10 vuotta ja että heillä on kaksi poikaa joista toinen käy uskonnollista koulua. Cherry Creek School Districtin puhemies sanoo, että Matt oli kotikoulutettu, eikä heillä ole sen vuoksi mitään tietoja tai diplomeja, joita Matt olisi ansainnut.

Matt asui äitinsä, veljensä ja isänsä kanssa. Isä on neurologi, jolla on klinikka Lone Treessä.

Arvadan poliisipäällikkö Don Wick sanoo että Matt oli ammuskelija molemmissa tapauksissa. Hän vahvisti että he olivat löytäneet todisteita, jotka liittivät Mattin sekä Uuden elämän kirkkoon että Arvadassa tapahtuneeseen ammuskeluun.

Wick lisäksi sanoo että Matt kuului kerran uskonnolliseen liikkeeseen Youth with a Mission, mutta hänet erotettiin vuonna 2002 jostain syystä.