Maailmanlaajuiset pedofiliaskandaalit

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Maailmanlaajuiset pedofiliaskandaalit

Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:07 pm

Näitä skandaaleja tulee sellaisella vauhdilla että laitan ne yhteen ketjuun.

Pelastusarmeijan poikakodit Australiassa

Uhrit ovat vuosilta 1950-1995.

Juttu on niin massiivinen että laitan pienen yhteenvedon uhrien todistuksista - on muuten viimeinen kerta kun annan senttiäkään järjestölle:


- Kapteeni Victor Bennet oli julma mies. Hän sattoi mennä jopa nelivuotiaiden luo ja iskeä nyrkkinsä niiden naamaan tai minne tahansa hän pystyi lyömään. Pojat itkivät ja huusivat kun hän nosti heidät paidoista ja iski sinne tänne pään ja hartioiden kohdilla.

Bennett oli yksi Pelastusarmeijan viidestä upseereista ja johtajista. Monet uhreista kertovat myös kuinka menettivät kuulonsa jatkuvien pahoinpitelyjen takia.

- Pojille kerrottiin että olohuoneessa pidetään paraati mikä tarkoitti sitä että poikien oli käveltävä sinne alastomina ruoskintaa varten.

- "Yksi upseereista käytti hevosen raippaa ja muistan veriset haavat, Bennett halusi aina käyttää keppiä jonka pää oli halkaistu koska sillä pystyi nipistämään ihoa.

- Yhtä poikaa ruoskittiin koska hänen oli nähty puhuvuan samalla kun oli lypsämässä lehmiä.

- Minut lukittiin häkkiin verannalla - joskus viikkojen ajaksi. Kun pääsin ulos häkistä Bennett raiskasi minut, olin joutunut häkkiin koska olin kertonut että vanhempi poika oli raiskannut minut. Jouduin lastenkotiin jo nelivuotiaana. 11-vuotiaana toinen pappi raiskasi minut. Minusta tuntui että kapteei Bennet vihasi minua alusta saakka. Rangaistukseksi piti esim. kontata alasti ja roikottaa kuollutta kanaa samanaikaisesti. Joskus alastomat pojat pistettiin juoksemaan ympyrää.

- Minua pahoinpideltiin seksuaalisesti ja fyysisesti 12-vuotiasta lähtien. Pelastusarmeija sanoi minulle etteivät vanhempani halunneet minua ja vasta vuosien päästä löysin kirjeet jotka vanhempani olivat lähettäneet minulle ja veljelleni, jota pidettiin erossa minusta. Sain kirjeet vasta kun olin vaatinut Queenslandin lastensuojeluvirastoa antamaan ne minulle lakipykälään vedoten.

- Pelastusarmeijalle vuonna 2006: Me aiomme saada kirjeitä kuolleilta. Jumala auttakoon minua kun saan ne..."

- Elin jatkuvassa pelossa. Jos puhui tai nauroi sai selkäsaunan.

Yhdeltä pojalta kysyttiin jos hän oli kertonut viranomaisille että Simeon Beckett ja muut upseerit tapasivat käydä farmilla ruoskimassa ja raiskaamassa heidät.

- En, koska pelkäsin mitä tapahtuisi jos avaa suunsa.

Raymond Carlile oli 7-vuotias kun hänet ja hänen nuorempi veljensä lähetettiin Pelastusarmeijan kotiin.

- Ne lapset jotka kastelivat sänkynsä pakotettiin nukkuumaan verannalla. Veljeltäni poistettiin munuainen ennenkuin hänet lähetettiin kotiin ja hän joutui kärsimään rangaistuksen siitä. Me olimme niin nälkäisiä että söimme molemmat ruohoa. Yritin saada hänet syömään raakoja perunoita kun löysin niitä verannan alta. Poikia ruoskittiin kunnes he vuotivat verta. Pelastusarmeijan luutnantti Laurence Wilson oli kaikista julmin. Häneltä valui kuolaa suusta kun hän rankaisi.

- Wilson raiskasi poikia, pakotti heidät sekstaamaan toistensa kanssa, ruoski heitä ja uhkasi suuremmalla rangaistuksella jos he koskaan kertoisivat kohtelustaan kenellekään.

Komissio on identifioinut viisi upseeria Pelastusarmeijasta, kolme heistä on edelleen elossa.

Wilson erotettiin Pelastusarmeijasta vuonna 1961 mutta hänen palkattiin takaisin vuonna1966 jolloin hän taas alkoi pitää koteja New South Walesissa.

Komissio kuuli myös kuinka New South Walesin poliisivoimat tutkivat 90-luvulla josko joku Pelastusarmejan upseereista pyöritti pedofiilirinkiä ja vuokrasi poikia muille.

Poliisivoimat eivät löytäneet tarpeeksi todisteita ja juttu hylättiin.

Strike Force Cori oli kuninkaallisen komission asettama ryhmä jonka piti tutkia pedofiilisyytöksiä yhtä piirituomaria vastaan ja samalla tutkia mikäli Lawrence Wilson, joka johti Pelastusarmeijan poikakoteja, oli organisoinut pedofiiliringin.

Wilson vapautettiin useista syytteistä vuonna 1997.

Etsivä Rick John Cunningham kuului poliisin iskuryhmään vuonna 1988 ja hän kertoi tutkineensa yhden pojan syytöksiä siitä että Wilson lähetti hänet kolmeen kotiin missä aikuiset raiskasivat hänet.

Etsivä kertoi Wilsonille että FV oli raportoinut hänent ja Wilson sanoi uhrille "Lähetin sinut hyvien ihmisten luokse" ja poika sai 18 raipaniskua. Joka kerta kun hänet lähetettiin raiskattavaksi hänet ruoskittiin kun tuotiin takaisin.

Monet uhrit yrittivät karata mutta poliisi toi heidät aina takaisin.
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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:09 pm

Tässä ei ole läheskään kaikki Nazarethin nunnista, jatkan myöhemmin.

Katolisten nunnien ja pappien Nazareth-lastenkodit, Irlanti ja Australia

Oikeudenkäynti loppuu kesäkuussa vuonna 2015 ja vielä on kuultavana yli 400 uhria.

Oikeus tutkii 13 hoitokotia, lastenkotia ja muita laitoksia jotka toimivat Pohjois-Irlannissa vuodesta 1922 vuoteen 1995.
Papit sanoivat yhdelle pojalle että hän on paha ja saatanallisen suhteen hedelmä.

- Yhtenä päivänä olet poika ja seuraavana päivänä olet pelkkä kuori joka kävelee ympäriinsä.

- Olen odottanut 65 vuotta että pääsen sanomaan tämän. Kun Nasaretin sisaret huostaanottivat minut sitä olisi voinut verrata Talibaniin, he olivat niin sadistisia, heiltä puuttui myötätunto kokonaan ja tavassa millä kohtelivat pientä avutonta poikaa ei ollut jälkeäkään ihmisarvosta.

- Sinä aikana kun olin hoitokodissa minua hakattiin, käytettiin seksuaalisesti hyväkseen ja nukuin usein märissä lakanoissa koska elin jatkuvassa pelkotilassa.

Useat uhrit sanoivat että nunnat pakottivat sairaita lapsia syömään heidän omaa oksennustaan rangaistuksena siitä että olivat sairaita.

Nunnien käytöstä lapsia kohtaan pidettiin psykoottisena.
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:22 pm

Paavi, kuningatar Elisabet ja Kanadan pääministeri on tuomitty syyllisiksi rikoksista ihmiskuntaa vastaan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjiv3vDA7I

Ongelma on vain se että kuka pystyy pidättämään heidät? Paavi erosi, kuningatar Elisabet antoi vallan prinssi Charlesille.
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja Sajaki » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:32 pm

NCW kirjoitti:
Paavi, kuningatar Elisabet ja Kanadan pääministeri on tuomitty syyllisiksi rikoksista ihmiskuntaa vastaan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjiv3vDA7I

Ongelma on vain se että kuka pystyy pidättämään heidät? Paavi erosi, kuningatar Elisabet antoi vallan prinssi Charlesille.
Mikä tämä juttu mahtaa olla? En katsele videoita enkä ole ihan varma että kuinka luotettava lähde tuo on. Elisabeth on kuitenkin edelleen vallassa eikä ole luovuttanut sitä Charlesille.
"Karkea kysymys koko kriminaalipolitiikan historian ajan on ollut, onko rikoksiin syyllistynyt (tai muuten poikkeava) henkilö paha vai hullu."

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:44 pm

Sajaki kirjoitti:
NCW kirjoitti:
Paavi, kuningatar Elisabet ja Kanadan pääministeri on tuomitty syyllisiksi rikoksista ihmiskuntaa vastaan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjiv3vDA7I

Ongelma on vain se että kuka pystyy pidättämään heidät? Paavi erosi, kuningatar Elisabet antoi vallan prinssi Charlesille.
Mikä tämä juttu mahtaa olla? En katsele videoita enkä ole ihan varma että kuinka luotettava lähde tuo on. Elisabeth on kuitenkin edelleen vallassa eikä ole luovuttanut sitä Charlesille.
Tässä yksi linkki: http://www.worldpublicunion.org/article ... order.html

Se on ihan totta, kyse on vain siitä ettei sillä ole mitään merkitystä.

Vai onko The International Common Law Court of Justice väsätty ihan turhan takia?
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Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja Marokon Kauhu » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:45 pm

Jotain mätää tässä on.
Hakemalla tulee vaikka kuinka paljon sivuja joissa väitetään että paavi, Englannin Kuningatar ja Kanadan päämisiteri olisi tuomittu, mutta ne näyttäisi kaikkiolevan aika huuhaa tason sivustoja.

Ainoastaan tämä näytti vähän luotettavammalta (vuodelta 2011), ja siinäkin puhuttiin vasta syytteestä:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... anity.html

Huffingtonin mukaan koko tapausta ei ole sitten kuitenkaan otettu edes käsittelyyn:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/1 ... 36720.html
Suvakki:
Monikulttuurisuusideologiaan uskonnon kaltaisesti suhtautuva ihminen, joka kärsii myös patologisesta altruismista ja sen aiheuttamasta kognitiivisesta dissonanssista"

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:48 pm

Tämän aamun skandaali:

Woody Allen
Adoptiotyttären avoin kirje Woody Allenista: ”Hän teki minulle seksuaalista väkivaltaa”

Kuva

Ulkomaat | 2.2.2014 | 11:01 | Päivitetty 11:023

Aamulehti, STT, AFP

Elokuvaohjaaja Woody Allenin adoptiotytär Dylan Farrow syyttää Allenia seksuaalisesta hyväksikäytöstä.

New York Times -lehti on julkaissut blogissaan Farrow’n avoimen kirjeen, jonka mukaan hyväksikäyttöä tapahtui tämän ollessa lapsi.

28-vuotias Farrow kirjoitttaa, että hyväksikäyttöä tapahtui niin usein, että tämä luuli sen olevan normaalia. Kun Allen oli vienyt 7-vuotiaan tytön ullakolle, tämä kertoi teoista äidilleen.

Allen oli Farrow’n mukaan käskenyt tytön mennä mahalleen makaamaan ja katsella veljensä lelujunarataa. Sitten Allen teki lapselle seksuaalista väkivaltaa.

– Hän puhui minulle, kun teki sitä. Kuiskaili, että olin hyvä tyttö, että tämä on meidän salaisuutemme. Lupasi, että menemme Pariisiin ja minusta tulisi hänen elokuviensa tähti, Farrow kirjoittaa.

Farrow’n mukaan hän koetti piiloutua Allenilta, mutta tämä löysi hänet aina. Farrow kirjoittaa kärsineensä hyväksikäytön takia muun muassa syömishäiriöstä, ja pelänneensä miesten kosketusta.

Allen ja Farrow’n äiti, näyttelijä Mia Farrow erosivat 1990-luvulla, kun paljastui että Allenilla oli suhde Farrow’n adoptiotyttären Soon-Yi Previnin (nyk. Allen) kanssa. Tuolloin puhjenneessa huoltajuuskiistassa Allenia vastaan esitettiin hyväksikäyttösyytöksiä, jotka jäivät näyttämättä toteen. Allen itse kiisti ne. Tuolloin Dylan Farrow ei vielä tullut julkisuuteen asiasta.

Allen ja adoptiotytär menivät naimisiin vuonna 1997.

Allenia ei ole tavoitettu kommentoimaan tyttären blogikirjoitusta.

Woody Allen palkittiin viime kuussa elämäntyöstään Golden Globella. Tuolloin sekä hänen entisen vaimonsa Mia Farrow että pariskunnan poika Ronan Farrow kommentoivat Twitterissä, etteivät arvosta Allenia, ja Ronan Farrow kirjoitti seksuaalisesti ahdistelusta.

Nyt Allen on Oscar ehdokkaana elokuvastaan Blue Jasmine.

http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/0 ... more-12599

http://www.aamulehti.fi/Ulkomaat/119487 ... ltaa+.html
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 4:58 pm

marokon_kauhu kirjoitti:Jotain mätää tässä on.
Hakemalla tulee vaikka kuinka paljon sivuja joissa väitetään että paavi, Englannin Kuningatar ja Kanadan päämisiteri olisi tuomittu, mutta ne näyttäisi kaikkiolevan aika huuhaa tason sivustoja.

Ainoastaan tämä näytti vähän luotettavammalta (vuodelta 2011), ja siinäkin puhuttiin vasta syytteestä:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... anity.html

Huffingtonin mukaan koko tapausta ei ole sitten kuitenkaan otettu edes käsittelyyn:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/1 ... 36720.html
Tässä se on:

http://itccs.org/2013/03/05/citizen-arr ... be-seized/

Syy miksei siitä tehdä haloota on että kuningatar Elisabet pisti sellaisen lain voimaan missä jokainen joka puhuu kuningashuonetta vastaan voidaan vangita smantien asettamatta mitään syytteitä.

Minä aion nostaa esiin pedofiiliskandaaleita täällä koska niitä vaiennetaan jatkuvasti mediassa.
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 5:05 pm

Toivottavasti jonkun nahka on niin paksu että pystyy katsomaan tämän ITV:n dokumentin ja kertomaan siitä täällä, itse lopetin kahden minuutin jälkeen:

Boy's business:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZbbxHF ... ture=share

Amsterdamin pojat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmeYiR-yyS4

USA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXlvObVu ... ture=share
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 5:09 pm

8-vuotias lapsimorsian kuoli hääyönä 40-vuotiaan miehensä käsissä:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWNNFXWHmDU
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 5:12 pm

Conspiracy of silence

Discovery Channelin dokumentti mikä yritettiin estää näyttämästä:

http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/vi ... of_silence
Mark. 9 : 42

Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 5:26 pm

Viranomainen kertoi lauantaina että mies naitti 12-vuotiaan tyttärensä 75-vuotiaalle miehelle Afganistanissa :cry:

http://wakht.af/en/index.php/social-cul ... ghlan.html
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Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja Rescuer » Su Helmi 02, 2014 5:59 pm

NCW kirjoitti:Tässä se on:

http://itccs.org/2013/03/05/citizen-arr ... be-seized/

Syy miksei siitä tehdä haloota on että kuningatar Elisabet pisti sellaisen lain voimaan missä jokainen joka puhuu kuningashuonetta vastaan voidaan vangita smantien asettamatta mitään syytteitä.

Minä aion nostaa esiin pedofiiliskandaaleita täällä koska niitä vaiennetaan jatkuvasti mediassa.
Mielenkiintoinen pulju tuo itccs. Siitä kun ei löydy juuri mitään muuta tietoa kuin mitä itse ovat julkaisseet. Mikään virallinen tahohan tuo ei ole, vaan lähinnä yhden miehen hengentuote. Ja kannattaa kuukkeloida kyseistä henkilöä, niin saa käsitystä tuon sivun luotettavuudesta.
Mitä enemmän vihreitä hymiöitä, sitä heikommat argumentit.
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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 8:14 pm

Rescuer kirjoitti:
NCW kirjoitti:Tässä se on:

http://itccs.org/2013/03/05/citizen-arr ... be-seized/

Syy miksei siitä tehdä haloota on että kuningatar Elisabet pisti sellaisen lain voimaan missä jokainen joka puhuu kuningashuonetta vastaan voidaan vangita smantien asettamatta mitään syytteitä.

Minä aion nostaa esiin pedofiiliskandaaleita täällä koska niitä vaiennetaan jatkuvasti mediassa.
Mielenkiintoinen pulju tuo itccs. Siitä kun ei löydy juuri mitään muuta tietoa kuin mitä itse ovat julkaisseet. Mikään virallinen tahohan tuo ei ole, vaan lähinnä yhden miehen hengentuote. Ja kannattaa kuukkeloida kyseistä henkilöä, niin saa käsitystä tuon sivun luotettavuudesta.
Pointti on se että on ainakin tehty jotakin eikä oltu hiljaa. Ei ole kyse siitä etteikö Vatikaania olisi koskaan pyydetty tekemään jotakin asian eteen, pedofiilipapit on hyvin tiedossa mutta Vatikaani ei ole koskaan tehnyt yhtään mitään ja papit ovat iloisesti jatkaneet lasten hyväksikäyttämistä Vatikaanin antamalla siunauksella.

Eikä ole puhe parista papista siellä sun täällä, pedofilia rehottaa valtoimenaan kirkoissa ympäri maailman.

Kirkko on kadottanut kaiken uskottavuutensa. Kirkko paasaa kuinka pitävät moraalia yllä vaikka niiden sisällä rehottaa hedonismi.

Pelkästään Australiassa niitä on pilvin pimein: http://www.brokenrites.org.au/drupal/node

Eikö olisi jo aika myöntää tosiasiat; pedofiliaa ei edes yritetä saada kuriin ja sen näkee kaikissa maissa. Vangitaan pariksi kuukaudeksi ja päästetään taas vapaaksi, uudestaan ja uudestaan ja uudestaan.

Ongelma on nyt siinä että media on alkanut julkaista juttuja pedofiileistä mitä ei ole tapahtunut aikaisemmin. Monella on valmiita juttuja joita eivät ole uskaltaneet julkaista - vielä. Ihmiset joilla on todisteita pelkäävät henkensä puolesta ja todisteita on varastoitu moneen paikkaan odottaen oikeata hetkeä.

Pedofilia on niin yleistä että on arvioitu että joka kuudes sekunti lapsi raiskataan.

Arizonassa selvisi yllättäen että poliisi oli saanut 6.500 ilmoitusta lapsen hyväksikäytöstä viimeisen neljän vuoden ajan eikä yhtäkään tapausta tutkittu.

Kanadassa arkeologit löysivät vahingossa lasten joukkohautoja koulun alueella, neljä joukkohautaa ja 50.000 lapsen luut. Viranomaisilta tuli muutaman päivän päästä käsky lopettaa tutkimukset ja arkeologit ajettiin pois.

Pedofiilien verkosto on maailmanlaajuinen ja niitä suojellaan, ei ole muuta selitystä kuin että valtaeliitissä on myös pedofiileja.

Useassa paikassa on puhetta siitä että kaikki merkit viittaavat siihen että pedofilia laillistetaan heti kun mahdollista. Kaliforniassa saatiin jo läpi laki siitä että pedofiilit ovat samassa asemassa kuin homoseksuaalit, ts. pedofilia on vain seksuaalinen suuntaus, ei rikos.

Putin ajaa samaa asiaa Venäjällä, hän puhuu siitä että homoseksuaalit ja pedofiilit ovat samaa kastia. Ovela veto sinänsä, nyt kaikki kauhistelee että Putin on homovastainen vaikkei kyse ole siitä.

Miettikää tarkkaan mitä haluatte, jos pedofilia saadaan laillistettua niin on myöhäistä katua ettei uskonut kaikenmaailman huuhaa-salateorioihin. Jos niin käy niin vain Jumala voi auttaa ja suojella lapsia, ne ovat silloin vapaata riistaa.
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Ja joka viettelee yhden näistä pienistä, jotka uskovat, sen olisi parempi että myllynkivi olisi pantu hänen kaulaansa ja hänet olisi heitetty mereen.

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Viesti Kirjoittaja NCW » Su Helmi 02, 2014 9:17 pm

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01 February 2014

Häpäisty entinen piispa Brendan Comiskey on puhunut ensimmäistä kertaa sen jälkeen kun lasten hyväksikäyttö hänen seurakunnassaan tuli julki 12 vuotta sitten ja pakotti hänet eroamaan.

Hän kertoi Irish Independentille: "Tein parhaani eikä se ollut tarpeeksi ja se siitä."

Hän sanoi olevansa osa 'traagista historiaa' eikä aio puolustella sitä.

Piispa Comiskey väitti että 'järkyttävän suuri määrä' paljastuksia lasten hyväksikäytöstä Irlannin yhteiskunnassa on vielä paljastamatta.

Ja hän väitti että katolisessa kirkossa ei ollut 'yhtään sen enempää' lasten hyväksikäyttöä kuin muiden asukkaiden keskuudessa.

Piispa erosi vuonna 2002 sen jälkeen kun Colm O'Gormanin dokumentti "Paavi syytteeseen" sai aikaan raivoa. Dokumentissa paljastettiin pappi Sean Fortunen tekoja.

Comiskey myönsi että raportti oli järkyttävää luettavaa mutta ettei hän aikonut käydä sitä läpi taas uudestaan.

“Ei ollut kyse siitä että en kiinnittänyt huomiota seksuaaliseen hyväksikäyttöön. Tein parhaani.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bi ... 69817.html

Tässä katkelma BBC:n ohjelmasta missä Colm ja muut uhrit tulivat esiin, kannattaa lukea kokonaan vaikka sydän särkyy:

Correspondent: Suing the Pope


Date: 19th March 2002


This script was made from audio tape – any inaccuracies are due to voices being unclear or inaudible. It was slightly amended in February 2010 in order to protect the identity of one of the contributors.




Sarah Macdonald:

Irish Catholic priest, Father Sean Fortune was a bullying, serial paedophile who preyed on young boys. His boss, Bishop Brendan Comiskey knew children were at risk but failed to protect them.

These men have been denied justice. I just wanted to know why didn't you stop Sean Fortune…


Bishop Comiskey
- I'm going to have mass at half past six. I, I, I…

Sarah Macdonald
- …abusing young boys? Bishop Comiskey?


Bishop Comiskey won't give them answers. Now they're suing the Pope.

Colm O'Gorman

- I hate this. Right now, driving along in this car, I feel awful and I don't want to be here.

- I really, really resent having to do this but I do feel like I have to because it hasn't been dealt with and there are people who are still suffering because of this.


Sarah Macdonald

Colm O'Gorman is a thirty-five year old Irishman living in London. Today he is revisiting his birthplace, County Wexford on the south east coast of Ireland.

This Catholic priest, Father Sean Fortune, sexually abused Colm when he was fourteen years old, assaulting and raping him for two and half years.

Colm had met Father Fortune just once when the priest came to his house and asked to take the young boy away for the weekend.

Such was the power of the Church in Ireland; no one questioned this unknown priest's motivations.

Colm O'Gorman

- He would pick me up and be the priest in front of my mother and my family. Five minutes later in the car he'd have me perform oral sex on him. And then, five minutes after that ended, stop off and again be the priest and walk into somebody's house with me in tow behind.


Sarah Macdonald

In 1981 Poulfur, Fethard-on-Sea became Father Sean Fortune's first curacy. A rural fishing community of around two hundred families. It's conservative and predominantly Catholic.

The parish priest is all-powerful in this country where the Church and the state are closely intertwined.

The parishioners were quickly drawn in by the dashing energetic young cleric. He soon had them divided into thirty-two different organisations, the children into a score of youth groups.

But their delight turned to horror as Father Fortune saw to dominate every aspect of this community. He stripped the elderly of their savings, cursed the unborn babies of
parents who defied him and preached from the altar against those who would not cede to his demands.


Gemma Hearne

- His aim was certainly money and power. He was obsessed with money and power.


Sarah Macdonald

Gemma Hearne has lived in Fethard for thirty years. She watched Fortune's every move.


GEMMA HEARNE

- His modus operandi was that he was going to heal and cure and say masses and he had all sorts of prayer services and healing services and it was all for money.
He blessed boats; he got money. He did, everything he did was for money.



Sarah Macdonald

In the early eighties, unemployment was especially high in small communities like Fethard-on-Sea. Father Fortune managed to coax more than a million pounds from government employment schemes for this tiny parish.

But he embezzled the funds, claiming for people who didn't exist and docking money from those who did.

But it was his overt interest in the boys, which began to worry the locals.

Gemma Hearne

- He became very, very much involved in the youth club. He formed his own youth club.

- He took them on retreats, allegedly, retreats and one of them being to Loftus Hall where I am told that it was horrific. That it was a mixed retreat and that they there
had pillow fights and all sorts of orgies and he showed very, very explicit videos.

Sarah Macdonald

In Ireland it would have been scandalous to defy a priest. But in Poulfur, as their sons became more withdrawn, parents turned to the Bishop for help. He did nothing.

Desperately, they wrote of their fears to the Pope's Ambassador to Ireland, the Papal Nuncio.


Colm O'Gorman

- The one thing that I always wanted was for somebody to take this back, for somebody to take responsibility, for somebody to say; actually, we should have done something here, we didn't.


Sarah Macdonald

When Doctor Brendan Comiskey became Bishop of Ferns in 1984 there was renewed hope that he would act against the now bizarre and dangerous behaviour of Father Sean Fortune.

Gemma Hearne

- There were complaints every single day about Father Fortune in some shape or form.


Sarah Macdonald

- And some of that would have been about sexual abuse of the children?

Gemma Hearne

- Yes. Absolutely, absolutely. But see parents didn't realise, in the beginning, what was happening because they thought that here we have a great young man coming
in. Nobody seemed to be able to do anything about it.


Sarah Macdonald

Doctor Brendan Comiskey is still the Bishop of Ferns. He's admitted being informed of allegations of child abuse against a number of priests, including Sean
Fortune, when he was first appointed.

Gemma Hearne

- I went to Bishop Comiskey, myself. I wrote to Bishop Comiskey first of all and I followed it up with a visit and Bishop Comiskey, his first question to me at that visit; had I any reason to believe that Father Fortune was homosexual?


Sarah Macdonald

Fortune trained for the priesthood in the seventies at Saint Peter's in the heart of Wexford. The priests and seminarians taught pupils at the school attached. Fortune
learned more here than just ecclesiastical duties. It now looks like a paedophile ring, whether formally or informally, was operating within the seminary and for
years exploiting the boys.

Father Donal Collins, the school principal and another priest were both later separately convicted of sexually abusing young children.


GER WALSH Managing Director, 'Wexford People'

- The diocese has had more than its fair share of problems in this regard. One has to wonder about the selection process for priests in this diocese and also, you know, what they were exposed to in, in, in the seminary.


Sarah Macdonald

- Father Fortune used to teach Ger Walsh religious studies at school.


Ger Walsh

- I would have been aware of his reputation and his bizarre conduct really. It certainly, to us as, as teenage pupils at the time it would have been quite clear that this man
wasn't, probably not fit for any position of responsibility, let alone to be a priest, to be ordained a priest. But despite that and despite all the, that was known about
him, he went on and was ordained and was given a parish.


Sarah Macdonald

And it is clear that the Church knew of Sean Fortune's sexual predilection. He was exposed two years before his ordination when he was a scout leader in Wexford.

PAT JACKMAN

- We went away on camp together with the scouts and we were in a tent one day and Sean started playing with one of the boys and when I say playing I don't mean football,
he was interfering with him sexually in front of us. There was about, say there was about six kids in the tent ranging from about ten to twelve.



Sarah Macdonald

Allegations of indecency reached both Saint Peter's Seminary and Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland national headquarters.


The CBSI has told Correspondent that after informing the church hierarchy, Father Fortune was asked to remove himself from the association forever.


But at exactly the same time, Fortune was ordained and sent to Belfast to work with children. He immediately defied the scouting ban.


DAMIEN MacALEEN

- He asked to play a game and the game was patting each other in the groin area. So I was maybe thirteen, fourteen, didn't know what I was at, so I agreed and thought it was a game. And then all of a sudden, like after a couple of minutes he started groping, you know literally rubbing me up and that went on for another couple of minutes until I turned and said stop. So as I stood up he more or less tried to force me back to the ground.



Sarah Macdonald

Concerned about persistent rumours, a priest was despatched to ask questions about Father Fortune but clearly only in a cursory manner.


Damien MacAleen

- He'd ask me the question; did I see any strange behaviour was going on with Father Fortune or any funny games, you know strange games? And I denied ever knowing anything about Father Fortune playing games, you know. It was just because my friend was there with him; I didn't want to get embarrassed.

Sarah Macdonald

Whatever was discovered, Father Fortune was pulled out of Belfast and given his own church and curacy; Saint Aiden's in Poulfur, Fethard-on-Sea.



Colm O'Gorman

- The only sense that I can make of that is that a bunch of men who had powerful privileged positions were much more interested in protecting their power, their position and their institution than they were in any way in protecting the people that they were due to minister to or the people that they spoke of in terms of love or compassion. There's no love or compassion there. There's an absolute disrespect and disregard for people and it makes me sick.

Sarah Macdonald

Such abuse has become an international scandal.


Fr TOM DOYLE

- It almost always happens to children or young adults, young adolescents who are very close to the Church. They are raised in a, in a church environment, they implicitly trust the Church and the hierarchical members, the Bishop, the priests. When they are sexually abused by a priest it's a profound betrayal of trust.



Sarah Macdonald

Father Tom Doyle is an American Catholic priest. He was a rising star at the Vatican Embassy in Washington in the eighties when the first case of clerical abuse broke
in the United States.


As a canon law expert he watched as the Church moved to protect the priest and turn on the victims. He became an outspoken critic of the Church's response to child
abuse and as a result was fired from his job.

He's now an army chaplain in Germany.



Father Tom Doyle

- There's been very aggressive action taken by the institution against victims and their families when they have initiated law suits. Very aggressive action by the
attorneys to try to, in a sense beat the people down. Parents and families who've made disclosures have been threatened, they've been intimidated, they've been, they've been, they've been put into a very fearful stance to try to coerce them into, into not going public.

Sarah Macdonald

- Pat Jackman was eleven when he witnessed Father Fortune abusing boy scouts. As a fifteen year old student at Saint Peter's he was aware of the rumours surrounding
not just Fortune but other priests as well. Fortune ingratiated himself into Pat's family, a ploy he used with many of his victims. He became especially good friends with Pat's mother.


PAT JACKMAN

- When he arrived at the house and my mum and dad weren't there either myself or my brother were potentially in trouble. I said something to my aunt and uncle, if this guy makes any sort of suggestion that we go away with him for a day or a night or anything just say no, I can't tell you why, just, just say no.

- So, as it turned out as he was, as he was walking out the door it's exactly what he said. He turned to my aunt and uncle and he said, oh by the way, I've got this new, I've
got this new organ that I want to show, unfortunate choice of words, but I've got this new organ that I want to show Pat because he knew I was into music, do you mind
if he comes out and spends the weekend out in Poulfur.

- And, and God love my aunt and uncle and my aunt still feels bad about it to this day and she said, no, yeah, sure, sure Father. I mean you don't imagine that a priest is
going to do anything to a kid, you know.

- As I walked out the door my brother was standing in the hallway and the look of shock on his face. He knew and I knew and we were kind of looking at each other and
Martin was like, didn't say anything but it was like; God help you Pat, I don't know what to do. And I was like, you know, just get me out of this, you know. Walked out
the door anyway, drove off into the sunset.

- There wasn't a phone in the place. If I ran out screaming in the middle of the night I didn't even know where the nearest house was. I didn't know if I went and knocked
the door whether they'd wake up, I didn't know if they did wake up whether they'd believe me or not.

- And the sense of being trapped and you know, and caged. It was, you know, bloody horrible, absolutely bloody horrible.

- It was eleven hours of, of a constant torture, which ended up in sexual acts of sorts.

Sarah Macdonald

- And then you went home, he took you home.


Pat Jackman

- Eventually, yeah, yeah. He, after dragging me round the parish. And I still say to this day, I mean those parishioners were looking at me, like, like you know, another little boy, you know, as if I was kind of encouraging him, you know, in a sort of way. Having to face them and having to be normal, you know. And he eventually said he'd, he'd bring me home.


- Ah you know Pat, you know, yourself and your mother, yourself and you mother, you know we're getting on great, we're great mates, you won't say anything to her, it'll, it'll, it'll kill her, it'll hurt her feelings and you'll ruin our friendship.


- And I said to him, look Sean if you, if you promise not to do to anybody else what you did to me I'll have no problem in saying anything. And he just smiled at me and he says, ah come on Pat.

- The man was unrepentant. It wasn't even a question of lying about it, it wasn't even, if he'd lied to me at that moment, if he said yeah you're right Pat, I'm very sorry,
it won't happen again, I don't know what happened to me or whatever, if he'd made some excuse I wouldn't have said a bloody word.

- But, no he planned to continue and he made no bones about it. Right, bugger you, says I, I'm going home and telling bloody everybody. I didn't tell him that like but
sure the minute, the minute, the second that I was in the door. I went up to my auntie.


Sarah Macdonald

- And said what?

Pat Jackman

- Well, Sean Fortune queered me up.


Sarah Macdonald

Pat Jackman's father was and still is closely associated with the Church. He complained directly to Bishop Herlihey about the sexual assault of his fifteen year old son.


Pat Jackman

- The Bishop thought it was ludicrous that a man of the cloth would act like that.


Sarah Macdonald

After Bishop Herlihey died, Pat's father complained to Bishop Comiskey. To this day no one from the Church has asked Pat Jackman about Father Fortune or the events of that night.


Colm O'Gorman

- On Sunday mornings, after Fortune had abused me on Saturday night, he'd leave me in his bed in the bedroom in the house there and come down and say first mass. And I remember that he used to come back after saying first mass and sometimes abuse me again and then I'd have to go downstairs with him and have breakfast and then come down here for the second mass and sit and watch him say mass.

- It was so hard to make sense of what was happening.

Sarah Macdonald

Colm has returned to Fethard-on-Sea in search of answers. He's shocked to discover that the majority of the community knew what Fortune was doing.

Gemma is one of the few locals willing to talk to him.

GEMMA HEARNE

- A priest is somebody whom you look up to and how do you tell your parents that something is going on. Now it's much easier because it's coming out in the open, thankfully.


COLM O'GORMAN

- I didn't even understand that I was being sexually abused. I just thought something really bad was happening and I was doing it. You know, I blamed myself for what was
happening. And he was good at that. I mean he made me feel like he, he, really manipulated me into a position where I accepted total blame for what was happening. He
told me it was my problem and he needed to help me. And he actually threatened to tell my parents. So, the idea of my parents knowing was in always in the form of
a threat and being told by a priest what I was like. And even though it doesn't make any sense now, at fourteen years of age, fifteen years of age that was terrifying for me. So I couldn't tell them, no.

Sarah Macdonald

That night Colm again returns to the parochial house where Father Fortune abused him.



Colm O'Gorman

- Not only do I, I suppose, have to deal with the fact that I was abused by Fortune, the fact that ultimately I feel I was abused by the Church and the fact that that whole
society, that my own society abandoned me because an awful lot of people knew exactly what was happening but chose not to do anything about it.




Sarah Macdonald

The current priest of Poulfur can't bring himself to live in this house. He's building a new one.


Fortune was abusing and blackmailing many young boys but still he received total backing from his church superiors, even meeting the Pope in the midst of mounting allegations.

The Bishop sent Fortune to psychiatrists, but they couldn't decide if he was a sexual deviant of not. So Fortune was left in the parish, often supported publicly by his Bishop.


One of Father Fortune's many schemes was the night watch team. Young boys would ride around on their bicycles after dark to protect the homes of the elderly.

Two of these boys are now dead. They committed suicide within a couple of years of each other.

In this community of just two hundred families, four young men have killed themselves. Like the abuse, no one talks openly about the suicides.

And there is no direct evidence linking these tragic men to Father Fortune. But many believe that he is to blame.

Peter Fitzpatrick shot himself in the chest. His mother has now finally voiced the fear she's harboured since discovering her son's body.


MONICA FITZPATRICK

- I thought what was going down on in Poulfur, I asked Peter and he said well, the lads were saying like that Father Fortune had the young lads in with him and things that way. But he never mentioned about being in with him. He never mentioned to me now about being in with him.

- He had a caravan just at the bottom of the garden there because he, he wanted his own bit of space.

- And when I went down, I called at the caravan door, there was no answer. And I just stepped up into the caravan and Peter was lying back on the bed.

- I just screamed and come tearing up the garden. And I got Patrick and my husband and they came down with me to the caravan. And I said, what happened to him, what's
wrong? And Patrick said; mummy, he said, you didn't see, it's on the floor and I didn't see the gun on the floor.

- I didn't want Father Fortune near the house. I didn't want him near the place and he came, he came that day, that Saturday night. He was laughing and joking his
usual, usual way and I said to him, Father Fortune I didn't want you here. And he said, oh we can't talk about things like that now, he said. He said, this is not the time,
he said to be talking. I said I specifically said I didn't want you and I don't want you there at the funeral either.

- It just keeps hitting me all the time – did he abuse Peter? Was Peter involved with Father Fortune? I do keep thinking about that and would that have sort of brought
on, would it brought on this, I don't know. I don't know. I talk to myself going round.


Sarah Macdonald

- Have you contacted the Bishop or anything?

Monica Fitzpatrick

- No. No, when the Bishop didn't do anything when he was told about it by the, the youngsters and their family and that and he done nothing about it, there is no point to
go near the Bishop. But I think the Bishop knows most of the answers and I think he should be answering the questions for the people.


Sarah Macdonald

Six years after the first complaint, Father Fortune was finally removed from Poulfur, burning all financial records relating to the parish on his departure.

All Bishop Comiskey did was to send him to London to study media and communications and to see yet more psychiatrists.

One year later Fortune was brought home and awarded with not only another parish but also the directorship of a Catholic media organisation, the National Association of
Community Broadcasting.

Father Fortune quickly turned his new role to his financial advantage.

Using the Irish state broadcaster, RTE's good name, he ran night classes through a bogus journalism and media institute, making over a hundred thousand pounds a year.

Fortune remained completely uninhibited by mounting accusations and never missed an opportunity for self-promotion.

Presenter

- Maria, just there.

Woman

- I'd just like to ask that clergyman that if among a family that you were talking with, that you met, say two members of that family who were homosexuals. How would you deal with that?

Father Fortune

- I'd like to reply in the words of the Irish Bishops, may I? Homosexual persons can no less than others, acquire real holiness in life, they should be supported by the Christian
community and especially by compassionate and enlightened guidance from priests, in their efforts to do so.


Sarah Macdonald

Within months of setting up his bogus media institute, Father Fortune raped one of his fifteen year old students in a recording booth he used for producing religious
programmes.


MAN

- It was in a small booth in front of the main sort of studio and he, you know, started kind of feeling me up and kind of put his hand under my jumper and I was like, no. But, in a sense and very, very rapidly he sort of basically pinned me down against the, the mixing desk and sort of, he anally raped me.

- And it was very frightening, very painful experience and it was all quite brief. It was very brutal and at no point, I think all subtlety, I mean he was a manipulative and very
subtle man but I think subtlety went out the window at that stage. And afterwards, it was all over quite quickly and afterwards I got out of there as quickly as possible.


- But not before he had a chance to kind of, to say, you know you'll be in big, big trouble, you know. If, you know, really it would be better for you, you know. And I was like, you know, I'm not going to say anything, just let me get the hell out of here. You know, I was just like, fuck, you know. And I think if I remember rightly I actually left my bag and that was one thing I remember later on, I was coming on the bus home and I thought oh no, I left my bag with all my stuff in there or whatever. But I didn't, I didn't go back for it.


Sarah Macdonald

- Yet it's now clear that a year before he was raped, two more complaints about Father Fortune sexually abusing young boys were made to Bishop Comiskey.

- This time the Church investigated. Father Fortune denied the allegations, the Church came to no conclusions and did nothing. It offered no explanation, then or now.

- Inside this room the torment continued.

- Correspondent has obtained these pictures of yet another of Sean Fortune's victims. The young man beneath the priest had been abused from the age of fifteen. He used
the video to blackmail Father Fortune into finally leaving him alone.

- Bishop Brendan Comiskey says he has never, ever, put a child's safety at risk to protect any priest. He declined to respond to Correspondent's questions about why he failed to prevent Father Fortune abusing young boys. Until 1995 Brendan Comiskey was battling a serious alcohol addiction and no one was more aware of the Bishop's demons than Father Fortune.



GER WALSH
Managing Director,
'Wexford People'

- He certainly acted as a, a, a, as a barman, a, a bar host at least, at least one occasion that I can say for certain because I had attended a reception that evening in the house. And of course Sean Fortune, to my knowledge at least, didn't consume alcohol and I think that he, he would skilfully manoeuvre himself so that he could ensure that people who were in his company would maybe consume a lot of alcohol.

Sarah Macdonald

- It was thanks to Colm O'Gorman that something was finally done. Fifteen years after Fortune raped him for the last time; Colm went to the police.

COLM O'GORMAN

- My father actually broke down and spoke to my sister and just said that he couldn't live with it anymore. And that really cracked everything open for me. For the first
time ever he'd spoken about what had happened and its impact on him. So in some ways I guess I did it for, initially I did it for him, for my father because of the
impact everything had had on him but also because I feared that Fortune was still abusing.



Sarah Macdonald

- The ensuing police investigation resulted in Father Fortune being charged with sixty-six counts of sexual indecent assault and buggery relating to eight boys. Eighteen years after the first complaint, the Catholic Church was finally forced to remove him from duties.

Fr TOM DOYLE

- What makes me angry about this whole thing, is when, is the lack of justice. It's the, it's the almost arrogant, you know, self-satisfied attitude that the ecclesiastical, that
the church leaders portray in the face of this incredibly horrendous criminal behaviour by priests. When they, they almost act like we're above this and how dare they
make accusations against us. And they, in many cases they've known, that's why these law suits have happened, that's why they've won the lot, that's why it's cost the
Catholic Church in the United States alone over a billion dollars over a ten year period. That's a lot of dollars.

Sarah Macdonald

- Father Fortune bragged openly that if he went down his Bishop was going with him. But instead of reaching out to Fortune's many victims, Doctor Brendan Comiskey fled his Bishop's palace and disappeared.


Ger Walsh

- People simply didn't know, they didn't know what state the diocese had been left in, they didn't know where the Bishop was or anything. I mean there was no proper
statement to, to, you know, which in retrospect would have been very helpful. So it began, people began to investigate various aspects of the Bishop's stewardship of
the diocese and his holiday destinations for example became a, a focus of interest.


Sarah Macdonald

- But the Bishop wasn't on holiday. He was in a clinic in America being treated for alcoholism. When he returned six months later, it was to a media inquisition about his
financial affairs, foreign holidays and his handling of child sexual abuse allegations.




Bishop BRENDAN COMISKEY

- There's a lot of things that haven't come out and the last thing I would want to give that I was making excuses for the Bishops, sorry, for myself. I have no problems saying
like, we did not do well.


Sarah Macdonald

- In a letter to this programme, Bishop Comiskey says that he maintains an open door policy for survivors of child sexual abuse in his diocese and this he feels is where he can make his best contribution. But Bishop Comiskey has never personally reached out in any way to the men in this film.

Pat Jackman

- He has admitted himself that he may not have reacted as quickly as he should have done but if we were talking in terms of six months or a year I think that's fine. When
you're talking of over a term of, whatever it was, fifteen years, that's a different matter entirely, you know. And I think he preferred to fudge it, I think he preferred to keep
it quiet.

- I would never, ever leave my kids alone with a priest, like ever.

Sarah Macdonald

Four priests in Bishop Comiskey's diocese have been accused of molesting children over the last twenty years. In the same period, fifty Irish priests have been convicted.

But attention is increasingly turning to Church superiors. Last year a French court convicted a Bishop for failing to report a paedophile priest to the authorities.


Fr Tom Doyle

- My guess would be that if the Bishop knew about it, generally speaking they, because it's a notorious issue, especially in a small country like Ireland, that the Papal Nuncio would have known and he in turn would have reported that to the Vatican. Whether the Pope would have been personally briefed on it, that I don't know, I can't tell you that. But I do know in many of the American cases the Pope did personally know.

Sarah Macdonald:

This year the Vatican issued new guidelines on how its senior clergy should respond to allegations of child abuse.

Suspected cases should now be reported immediately to Rome, so the Vatican can determine the course of action. They do not say if civil authorities should be told.
Instead, the Vatican will act as police, judge and jury. And it will all be conducted in secret.

Fr Tom Doyle:

- If you know that a crime has been committed and you, you, you either look the other way or you condone it or you support the perpetrator, you share in the guilt. That, I think, should be pursued. And I don't think just because a man is a Bishop does not entitle him to allow criminal acts to take place or to commit them himself. It certainly doesn't entitle him to allow children to be violated and their lives ruined.

Sarah Macdonald :

- What do you think should happen to them?

Fr Tom Doyle:

- I think the same thing should happen to them that should happen to any leader or anyone who harbours a criminal, they should be prosecuted.

Sarah Macdonald:

Supported by the Church, Fortune managed to drag the legal process out for four years, at one point disappearing to Belgium with thirty thousand pounds. He was finally
brought before the Irish courts in 1999.

Whilst out on bail he killed himself with a cocktail of alcohol and drugs, denying the boys their first chance to be heard.


Gemma Hearne:

- I never spoke to Bishop Comiskey about Father Fortune or his suicide. But I would say that it was probably the happiest day of his life. Because, although he may have lost a clergyman, he left, Father Fortune brought a lot of secrets to the grave that would have come out had he gone to jail or had he gone to court. And Bishop Comiskey would have, I mean after all he was the Bishop of Ferns, or he is the Bishop of Ferns. So he has responsibility for his clergy and the blame would have to be laid clearly at his feet because he didn't deal with the situation as he should have done.

Colm O'Gorman:

- Twenty years ago that bastard raped me.

- And, I'm still now forced to be in a position where I have to fight to get somebody to acknowledge what they did or didn't do and the responsibility that they had for that.
And I meet up with other men who are in exactly the same position and I find out that, that, that young boys and men have died, have committed suicide, I believe because of what he did to them.

- And you have, frankly, bastards like Brendan Comiskey, hiding in his nice palace in Summerhill, behind his alcoholism and his regret and his, you know, his inability
to understand or to do anything about it. It's not good enough; it's not good enough. It's not good enough anymore. People have died. People are dying. People are hurting.

Sarah Macdonald
- Bishop Comiskey!
- this is Sarah Macdonald, BBC television.

Bishop Comiskey
- Sarah, how are you?

Sarah Macdonald
- Very well, thank you. I've just come to ask you just a question about Sean Fortune…

Bishop Comiskey:
- I'm going to have mass at half past six…

Sarah Macdonald:
- We just wanted to know why didn't you stop Sean Fortune abusing young boys? Bishop Comiskey?

Bishop BRENDAN COMISKEY:
- I, I, I moved, when it was brought to my attention I moved him out of the parish and sent him on treatment for two years…

Sarah Macdonald:
- Not for six years. Not for six years, you didn't move him out of the parish. Why didn't you stop him?

Bishop Comiskey:
- Thank you very much.

Sarah Macdonald:
- Why didn't you stop him, Bishop Comiskey?

Monica Fitzpatrick:

- It's the first time I've talked, haven't been able to talk to neighbours or family, I can't. I haven't been able to talk to them. But, I think Father Fortune is dead and gone now, I know he's dead and gone but there was really nothing done about him before he died. He was let away and I think the Bishop as well was there involved. The Bishop knew all about it and he was the one that should have sorted Father Fortune out from the early times. I think all the young lads that have been involved like, that he has abused, I think there's no answers for them. Peter has gone and there's nothing we can do.


Sarah Macdonald:

In the last year another young man has committed suicide in Fethard-on-Sea.

Doctor Brendan Comiskey remains the Bishop of Ferns.

Since Father Sean Fortune's suicide, six of his victims have begun legal action.

So far, the Church's only response has been to deny liability and plead diplomatic immunity.

Colm O'Gorman is suing the Bishop, the Papal Nuncio and the Pope.

For more information on tonight's programme please visit our web site at:

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Reported & Directed by
SARAH MACDONALD


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